Beware of reviews of EDC Gold by people claiming they are users of the program who are having success with it. They lie to you. Now I am not basing my conclusion on having caught any of them in a lie. I’ve never tried the program myself. I did an EDC Gold review it in a previous post and came to conclusion that:

…if you don’t mind turning around and suckering people after realizing you’ve been suckered, and if you have a gift for suckering people yourself, EDC Gold might just be the money making program you’re looking for. Or perhaps I should be saying EDC Diamond rather than EDC Gold, since it appears EDC Gold is relatively outdated and the new program being tooted by Craig Garcia and his partner Mike is EDC Diamond. Actually skip all of that, what this is in a nutshell is a program you join knowing the only way you’re going to make money off of it is by finding other people who are willing to join knowing that the only way they’ll make money off of it is by finding other people willing to join knowing that the only way they’ll make money…. You get the gist right? You’re making a choice to be suckered for $997 in order to be able turn around and sucker for a potential 6-figure yearly income.

So basically, what I’m suggesting here is that the people out there with websites that supposedly provide an “honest” review or EDC gold are the people who don’t mind turning around and suckering people after realizing you’ve been suckered. Their mission is to convince you that they are having success with the program, and it’s very possible they are indeed having success with it; but what you should keep in mind is that success means they have been able to fool other people like you; and that, from everything I have turned up in my research, is the only way you will enjoy success with EDC Gold, by turning around and tricking other people into buying in the way you were tricked into buying in.

Don’t believe me because I’ve never actually tried the program? There are some people here who did try it. You should read their thoughts; but beware of the posts made by EDC sponsors in the same discussion. If you start to feel confused because of the conflicting reports, just remember, where ever there is an active discussion about EDC Gold or any other EDC program, there will be EDC sponsors looking to recoup the money they lost buying into the program. They know that if you’re on site where people are discussing EDC Gold, you’re looking into EDC Gold. If you’re trying to find information on whether or not EDC Gold is a scam, you must be seriously considering the program. If they can just convince you that the bad things you’re reading are not true, maybe they can convert you into a customer and get back their money….

Yes, there are people like you and me making money online. If they’re not doing it slaving themselves for pennies an hour filling out surveys, posting on message boards and performing other tedious data entry tasks, they are reselling useless ebooks and software to other people looking for ways to make money online. Those of us who continue to struggle have to decide what’s more important, making the money or keeping our dignity and integrity?

I’m starting to think I must be seriously stupid. The staggering numbers of people out there who have managed to figure out money making systems that have made them filthy rich while I seem only able to make pennies per day is starting to make me wonder if perhaps I have the brain capacity of an idiot.

I’m especially more inclined to think maybe I really am a dolt when I come across statements like “Systems work, people fail… It’s that simple”. Or maybe it’s not a case of me being stupid in the sense of not knowing how to follow instructions and apply formulas because, when all is said and done, I’ve never tried any of the money-making systems these people are selling. Maybe my stupidity is in assuming all these people with their money-making systems are just trying to rip me off, so I don’t bother to try any of the programs which means I remain poor for as long as I continue to try to make something happen on my own without trying to scam anybody or subjecting myself to being scammed.

Would I like to be making $35000 per week like Ty Coughlin (probably not a real name) says he’s making using some reverse funnel system? Sure I would like to be making $35,000 per week. I’d love to be able to pick up and go to Hawaii on a whim today if I so desire and $35,000 per week would surely allow me the freedom to do that; but something about a guy who puts “From the beach house office of Ty Coughlin(North Shore of Oahu Hawaii) in his special report header just rubs me the wrong way. Am I supposed to be impressed with his achievements. I’m not interested in knowing that he has a beach-front office in Oahu Hawaii. What’s the relevance of that? Tell me about this system of yours that you say can potentially make me $250,000 my first year Mister Coughlin. That’s what brought me to your website, my curiosity to find out more after seeing your ad with the headline Make money online fast and the byline “$250,000 your first year from your laptop now“. You could have been Keanu Buttercup writing your pitch from a hole in the ground. I didn’t visit to find out who you are and how you live but how exactly I can make $250,000 per year from my laptop.

As it turns out I would need 2k - 5k minimum in start-up capital to participate in this reverse funnel system business. The business has something to do with placing ads that generate massive results, answering questions via email from people (but only for a month - after a month you’ll be able to hire an assistant to do your menial chores for you), calling into a conference call once per day…. Not entirely clear on the details but there are people in the testimonials sitting in porches, standing next to single engine cessnas, standing outside of homes that look like castles. So whatever the exact nature of the business the implication is that it can make you very rich, but if and only if you have 2k - 5k minimum in start-up capital to invest and Ty Coughlin deems you worthy to be part of the ‘~Inner Circle~’. My guess is that you’ll be Inner Circle worthy as long as you have the 2k - 5K, probably more worthy the more you have to invest.

Hey, Coughlin guarantees you can’t fail. He says ” my System takes YOU out of the equation… You can’t mess it up! That’s why it works!” Well, if you can’t mess up, if you’re guaranteed not to fail, what’s there to stop you giving it a try if you’ve got an expendable 2k - 5k?

Look, I don’t know Ty Coughlin and I’m certainly not trying to disrespect him. His program may well be all he claims it to be, but I’d rather not wager $2000 on it being any different from any other program.

And what’s with the disclaimer stating that the figures quoted are only for illustration purposes and that it’s possible to make less or nothing with the program. I realize it’s standard and necessary, but if there’s no way for you to mess up the system, how is it possible for me to lose money?

I’ll pass on the reverse funnel system. Sorry Ty; but I’m sure you suffer no real loss. I’m just one out of millions of prospective buyers after all. In the meantime, send us a shout out from Oahu. We’d love to hear from you.

In their earnings disclaimer which you can find here, Project PayPay tries to cover their individual or collective bottoms by basically telling you to join their program at your own risk. They assure you in no uncertain terms, you will NOT get rich using their product or advice; but you knew that because they told you in their sales pitch as well. That was one of the things that made you go ‘hmm, maybe these guys are the real thing. They’re not promising me I can make $10,000 in 2 hours.’

But it’s interesting how they use their marketing strategy so effectively to get you excited about the prospect of making lots of money despite never telling you you that you can. They use words like ‘might’ and ‘potential’ as in “We’ve made every effort to ensure that we’ve accurately represented our product and its potential for income.” “Earnings and Income statements made by our company, and testimonials from our customers, are estimates of what the average person might expect to earn based on other individuals’ personal experiences.”

But human nature being what it is, and they promising their system is so easy and affordable, you so desperately wanting to find the one program that really will make you a steady income even if it doesn’t make you rich, when you see statements like, “Everyone is different. There’s no guarantee you’ll make these levels of income and you accept the risk that you may earn more or less, or you may lose money.”, you only hang onto the part of that which keeps your hope alive. You may earn more or less. More would be great. Less than $5000 could be $2500 and you can live with that. The part about you possibly losing money you’re more likely to overlook, because you’re in a desperate place and when you’re in a desperate place you tend to make emotional decisions. Hope is an emotion. When you do something hoping for the best you’re making an emotional decision.

Is Project Payday a scam? I didn’t review their training material for reasons explained in the post Project Payday - Is it a scam? But even if it is not an outright scam in the eyes of the law, it is definitely grossly and intentionally misleading, and it is definitely a program that was designed expressly to make money online for the person or persons who devised the scheme. If you make money off the program it will indeed come down to your own individual “experience” and “expertise” and will likely have nothing to do with the Project Payday system; but they will gladly take credit for it because it will help them secure more hopeful customers.

To conclude their earnings disclaimer Project Payday writes:

As with any business, your results may vary, and will be based on your individual capacity, experience, expertise, and level of effort. There are no guarantees about the level of success you may experience using our product or advice.

Doesn’t that seem a wee bit contradictory to you? By now they may have modified their sales pitch to try to cover themselves in the event of lawsuits, but one of the promises they were initially making was the promise that their system was easy as pie. If it’s easy as pie to make money with Project Payday, how is it that their disclaimer says that success will be based on your individual capacity, experience, expertise and level of effort? These are not words that bring easy as pie to mind.

Then there’s the caution taken to safeguard against anyone interpreting their testimonials to mean that they, the Project Payday people, are representing or guaranteeing that you will have the same results as the people who gave the testimonials; and the most telling detail of all:

There’s no assurance that examples of past earnings can be duplicated in the future. We cannot guarantee your future results.

Basically what Project Payday has done in their disclaimer is admit the unlikelihood of an inexperienced novice like you making money using their product or advice; but they did it under the guise of ascertaining that you are informed there is every possibility of “failure” so that, should you fail and try to sue them, someone can point you to where you were advised of the possibility of failure and agreed before you signed on not to hold them responsible. You read the disclaimer and you respect them all the more for letting you know that “some” people don’t succeed with the program. Some people who don’t put in enough effort and don’t have the capacity for success fail with Project Payday, but you’re not lazy and you’re not stupid. You may not be experienced or have expertise in the field but you’re going to put in such an effort that there will only be one outcome for you - success. So you bite the bullet. You buy into the program. The money guzzling machine goes cha-ching on the other side. Some guy does the dance of joy, or if it’s a group of guys/gals, they slap each other some skin. You’re out the cost of buying into the program. They obtain the last few dollars needed to officially bring them to $1 million in sales

I guess that rich guy from thatrichguy.com will not be sending me his money making program so I can review it and let you know if it really can take you from being flat broke to living the dream. I’d contacted him a couple of days ago asking him to send it to me so I could update a previous post in which I suggested that rich guy is a scam with information based on actually reviewing the program; but I’ve just stumbled across an ad that was placed on digital point yesterday seeking to sell thatrichguy.com. Here’s how the ad starts:

“Hey I need to dump my site thatrichguy.com….. here are the details
Starting Bid: $50
Ends in 5 days
Buy it Now- Just send me offers
Established Money Making Website for Sale

ThatRichGuy.com
ThatRichGuy.com was made a few months back in order to take a big piece of the make money online business and it has done just so.”

Seems that rich guy needs to sell the site because, in his own words, “I recently ran into some personal problems as last week both of my parents were in a serious car accident and have been hospitalized. Between going to school and being at the hospital I have no time to properly run this site that is why I would like to give it to another DP user who will be able to properly promote the site with advertising and profit from it. I am not trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes here as I have the utmost respect for every DP user but due to my unfortunate circumstances I need to sell the site and concentrate on my parents health. I appreciate all of the inquiries on the site and the current bid is $350 anymore questions feel free to ask.”

Not saying his story is fradulent; but back on November 13th he posted the same ad on digital point and when asked his reasons for selling he gave as his answer, “I want to sell ASAP because I want to move onto my business of selling websites on ebay. Site was making revenue….. I had a partner with it who invested 1K….he wants out……so therefore I have to sell it to recoupe his investment back… Nothing more….nothing less. SIte is great…. Also, we did some minor SEO work promo but my partner was very very very impatient.”

One has to wonder why would a rich guy like that rich guy need to resort to considering offers in the $200 range for a website that, according to what he’s telling potential buyers, can make $3000 per day? Could that rich guy be strapped for cash? And if that rich guy is strapped for cash then why wouldn’t he just resort to using his system that he’s promising you on his website took him from flat broke to living the dream life and can do the same for you.

I’m not saying that rich guy is a con artist or anything; but I would caution you to think ten or so times before you buy anything being sold on the website thatrichguy.com. And for those of you considering buying his website, do you really want to get into the business of selling useless ebooks to people, making false promises about how the ebooks contain the answers to their money problems? Don’t believe for a minute that you’ll make anywhere near $3000 per day off that site. If the site was making $3000 per day why in the world would that rich guy be selling it, and especially now when he’ll probably need all the money he can get his hands on to take care of his parents’ health?